Comments on: Othala – Rune Meaning Analysis

By: Helly

Helly — Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:36:20 +0000

Othala , in my vision.
The person who stands in his place, who is devoted for his way (in the head too), such person will not have conflict with others. He will not judge, he will not desire the way of others, the choice of others…

“home is where the heart is” – it is true *

(sorry for my english)

By: Naila

Naila — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:51:49 +0000

perfectness = perfection
))))))))

By: Naila

Naila — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:35:13 +0000

I absolutely agree. …Natural borders are the same as language’s rules, for example, to compare… But WHO said that today’s language rules are the very correct rules? Moreover, which part of Human Language to consider? English? Russian? Natural borders are the same as our body’s cells borders. I mean that. Think of, how many cells we consist of as one body – every-body!? :) It is clearly visional in “natural” word meaning. The other side of the issue is – to have ability to distinguish is it really origin\natural rule/border or was it stamped above origin border(s) and vice versa – to make the whole “image” volumetric, but not plain at all.

Therefore, natural borders, as any “rule”…, they are not stiff, and they are not so flexible at all, but they are always perfect. Though, sure, for now… (by the voice of A. Banderas)… as we only started to realize – who we are and where we are…, description of perfectness might be still variable up to drastic contradictions. But here we are, all who live NOW by somebody’s curse… “Let you live in an era of changes!” Though sure, original language proposed not “let” but “may”, I know. )))))) And they say, that it’s Chinese proverb. Let us see then, those “pictures” of Chinese language instead of just usual “letters” we got used to… :)

Trust me, not everybody understands my Russian, no matter that I have an innate literacy, speaking about my Russian Grammar (without any false humbleness) :) So, I prefer to be silent mostly. Aummmm. )))))))))))))

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 02:55:48 +0000

Three examples of Othala that is intensely meaningful to the people involved:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU3mctah5Uo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUrguRrbCCQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y_zkAOobU6s#!

By: Tyriel (Admin)

Tyriel (Admin) — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:22:33 +0000

Your english improves, and I think you have grasped something of Othala that you should pursue.

The natural borders you speak of always blend into one another. We try so hard as humans to control space and objects — which always requires force. We desire other people’s resources, to exploit.

At its base, in terms of estate and homeland, Othala can be seen as the wise management of resources: space, time, energy, etc.

But we chase after scape goats. We lay blame. We think ‘if those “others” (Otha) were NOT a party to our homeland, everything would be alright.’ Give me a break :P

A home without guests is merely a tomb.

By: Naila

Naila — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:04:52 +0000

> “…definition of a borderless Othala is destructive” <
:)
Hey, Mike, you mix natural "borders" and unnatural (mostly geographical) ones, right? So it's only your personal and still delusional perception of "bordereless" Othala, I think."Bordereless" doesn't mean chaotic at all, does it? It doesn't mean "no harmony" at all. Have you ever heard about the Golden Age? Was it utopia or real? Why then WE remember it? Don't you remember it? It's on the deepest level of our memory, not in illusional dreams at all. It's a core of our survival still.
Have you ever heard a story about Babylon Tower? :)
So, natural borders is everybody's noble state: "to be noble is to act noble". If "you" (see, somebody, not personally you, Mike) don't remember "your" natural borders (why?), then sure, you would try to build their prototype instinctively, by nature, still :)
So, you tried to make it here, as I see. (So as we have all those false borders between countries and between people…) You are speaking about false borders, …just pure model of messed memory still, talking about genetical or even just historical memory, (…still, not about personal ability for remembering stories or numbers and not about new age history, which often lies about even recent past history). And I speak not about history of just 2-3 last milleniums, which are actually the last "days" of "a deep night" of people consciousness. We are all at a dawn of A-wareness without any mystical explanations of it. Everybody would understand each other without any borders. Borders of illusion, the most great power on earth, would be just understood. There are no borders for understanding. Illusion is the very border for personal misunderstanding, first, and then it is really awful, when it takes mass forms. (Sorry for my wordiness, people.) So every-one is personally responsible for what future awaits us.

By: Tyriel (Admin)

Tyriel (Admin) — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:25:58 +0000

Yes, Mike, you’ve told me you disagree on the ‘racial’ issue before, but you clearly still have a ways to go.

While ancestry, estate and nation are all ideas embodied within Othala, there is an insular and conflict ridden way to use the Othala energy, and one which transcends and includes these past problems: more important than ever to understand so that hate, conflict and war can be diffused, and the “Peace of the Home” spread.

“Peace of the Home” and “Love of the Family” is an expansive energy, and that is all ‘utopia’ really is, the human idealization of those core values. These are hardly destructive values.

Now honestly, it was better around here when you weren’t picking an argument about race, creed and nationality. Please don’t start it again.

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:52:48 +0000

“Rather than representing genetic inheritance and blood (which it of course does but only on a lower level of meaning) Othala is actually the movement of society to transcend these ideas, and embrace all humanity as kindred, all the world as a single global nation. It is the rune of a sustainable planetary civilization, a utopia, or paradise. The ‘noble’ is in fact anyone who takes up the role of a person moving his portion of the homeland/personal-communal sphere toward heaven-on-earth.”

Basically you are saying that Othala in its highest meaning embodies the vision of borderless nationless one-world utopia? I disagree with that. How can the Tibetan people defend and preserve their culture, their unique peoplehood against their ethnic dispossession by the Chinese if they don’t believe in themselves as a people, as a nation?

The Tibetan people certainly must have their own symbolic version of Othala. As such it surely signifies their deepest allegiance to their unique peoplehood and land; their own Tibetan ‘Blood and Soil’.

Your definition of a borderless Othala is destructive to the preservation of all unique indigenous peoples unless you clearly allow these unique indigenous peoples the right to control their own boundaries and borders.

You cannot have real diversity without borders. Any enclosure of any kind has a reason and a purpose. Any enclosure defines an area as apart from another area. Every enclosure has a door that allows access and egress. The control of that door is essential to maintenance of the enclosure.

By: Kristen Krascek

Kristen Krascek — Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:03:40 +0000

Oh wow! This touched on the genetic aspects of Othala – something that I felt when the Runes were first awakened within me and I saw chains of Othala (rows of Othala the Rune) and I wondered if there was not only an ethnic connection for me due to my strong Anglo-Celtic background/plus Germanic but also a spiritual heritage – I am in favour of reincarnation and the possibility of living many lives and having a range of cultures in one’s many lifetimes – say, we all get to incarnate as pretty much every culture that exists. Still, reincarnation may be off topic though.

My feeling for this Rune has always been a mixture of culture, spiritual and mundane – I feel the element of the clan or feudal system in the historical meaning of this Rune. This Rune to me could be a badge of identity if you will. Something to belong to in terms of a tribe for example or heritage of some sort. Something that is shared within a community, a common ground and system of living and beliefs.

As for nobility, yes, I totally favour the meaning of nobility being the act of behaving in a noble way, not being born of so called “noble blood”. You can be born of “noble blood” (I am told I have royalty in my background) but this really means nothing if you do not behave in a noble manner. To be noble is to be upright and honest and I really like the Asatru idea of the nine noble values. These are great standards to base a community or society on. This is true nobility – doing right and striving to be a good person, one of conscience and decency. This is true nobility.

If I was to assign an animal totem to this – I would most definitely choose the Wolf – a truly noble creature with a very complex and noble clan system.